I’m pretty sure it was my fear of going to prison for having a bunch of weed in my grandma’s house. Statement of Facts undated, relates to the above. So that would ruin her life too. He just couldn’t come to grips with those feelings. I told [Adnan] that I wouldn’t touch her car, or any of her possessions, and I say, ‘Fuck it. He was sentenced to life in prison after being convicted of first-degree murder, robbery, kidnapping and false imprisonment of his ex-girlfriend Hae Min Lee. And I said, ‘Hey, I need to run to the mall ’cause I need to get a gift for Stephanie.’, He said then, ‘No, I gotta go do something. Yes. Here are 5 of those reasons: 1. The podcast asked whether her ex-boyfriend Adnan Syed, who was convicted of her murder, may actually be innocent, which led to several key people involved in the case being re-examined. Now I don’t wanna tell the people at Cathy’s that this guy I’m with just killed his girlfriend and the cops just called because then they would all be a part of this fucked up thing. Jay Wilds, the main witness in a case that put then-18-year-old Adnan Syed into jail for the murder of his ex girlfriend Hae Min Lee in 1999, has done an interview with The Intercept and changed his story. The star witness at Syed’s trial was Jay Wilds, a former classmate who testified that he helped Syed dispose of Lee’s body. This interview is the first time Jay has spoken publicly about events surrounding Lee’s death and the trial that ended in Syed’s conviction. She just seemed like an older chick who happened to be in high school. It wasn’t like, ‘Oh, we’re down in the park, come on down.’ We were friendly, we were cool. It’s in the evening after school, we never hung out in the morning. Was it in the Best Buy parking lot? I worked a lot. I was also around a bunch of people earlier the day [at Cathy’s], and I didn’t want them to get fucked up with homicide. Although parts of Wilds’ account would change as the case carried on, Pusateri would ultimately tell a court that Wilds told her that Syed confessed to killing Lee, and that Syed had shown him Lee’s dead body after the murder. It’s not my job to figure that out. He knew I was afraid of that. He’s gone with Hae’s car. This is where it was produced. In episode eight of “Serial,” Koenig mentions a conversation she had with Pusateri at the time of the recording. At the time of her murder, both Syed and Lee were seniors at Woodlawn … “You know, I didn’t really want to face it — was hoping I could just do anything to make it go away.”. Lee attended the magnet program at Woodlawn High School near Baltimore, Maryland. These connections led to police tracking down Pusateri for questioning. "She did answer my one big question, though, and her answer was yes. Just normal conversation like, ‘I think she’s fucking around. It wasn’t until they made it clear they weren’t interested in my ‘procurement’ of pot that I began to open up any. Pusateri and Wilds were close friends, and their matching stories helped put away Syed for life for Lee’s murder. She was still in the trunk. It was Jay’s testimony that helped to put Adnan in prison with a life sentence for the February 1999 murder of his high school girlfriend, Hae Min Lee. There are three incoming calls on the call log - at 6:07 p.m., 6:09 p.m. and 6:24 p.m. - that could be these calls. But, like I said, I don’t know how to come up with this story about how Adnan did it, why he did it, what he was thinking, how he was thinking, and why he was thinking that. And it was really hard for him to deal with being on the losing end. But she seemed to be more mature, like she was two, three, four years older than us. Adnan says, ‘Just help me dig the hole.’ And I’m still thinking, ‘Inner-city black guy, selling pot to high school kids.’ The cops are going to fry me. I asked him where we’re going and he says, ‘Didn’t you say everyone gets dumped in Leakin Park?’. “I thought he told me it happened at Best Buy,” she says. I don’t know if she said something he couldn’t handle, and he went off the edge or if he had been seriously speculating about it. Like, he’s not in a car or anything. I rode BMX freestyle. There are so many reasons that explain why Adnan did not murder Hae Min Lee. We got in his car and start driving. Then he calls me and says, ‘Come pick me up.’, So I go to pick him up, and when I get there he says, ‘Oh shit, I did it.’ I say, ‘Did what?’ He says, ‘I killed Hae.’. He had a professional job in high school, he was a paramedic or something [Ed. By the time I graduated [Woodlawn] high school in 1998, I wasn’t exactly angry, but I did resent the school. I had friends but the groups were small. I had never known anybody who had killed anybody else, so there’s no way I could have known. When did you two get closer to each other? I saw the ATF and DEA take down guys in my neighborhood for selling much less than I was at the time. When did he first talk to you about hurting her? What else could motivate you to choke the life out of someone you cared about? I know that he came from a very strict religious background and that he was uneasy with some of the things he was doing. It wasn’t like, ‘Oh, we’re going bowling, and let’s call it in before we go bowling and call the rest of our friends and call Jay.’ I don’t remember ever going to any kinds of functions or endeavors together, or any concerts or clubs together, you know. We drive over to Cathy’s house to smoke. ... when Syed calls his friend Jay Wilds. He never said anything like, ‘Hey, what gauge gun should I use?’ or ‘How many minutes am I supposed to hold somebody under the water for?’ or, ‘Is there a statute of limitation on murder?’ I thought he was just blowing off steam and bullshitting. I was also running [drug] operations from my grandmother’s house. It wasn’t just like I was selling a nickel bag here and there. What was your life like during 1998 and 1999? I’ll call you from someone else’s phone when I’m done.’. Ok, so you arrive at Cathy’s with Adnan after he tells you he murdered Hae? I played lacrosse, was a bit of a jock. He failed; he lost the girl. How many covert wars, miscarriages of justice, and dystopian technologies would remain hidden if our reporters weren’t on the beat? I didn’t know that he planned to murder her that day. I had a lot more on the line than just a few bags of weed. I got the feeling the few times of interacting with Adnan that there was this enormous pressure from somewhere trying to make him into something he didn’t want to be. There was never a real friendship. Get all your true crime news from Oxygen. Yes. But their gym, lockers, parking, was down in the magnet wing. Because I knew football had paid for all of that, but there were few football players down there. According to the state's timeline, Hae Min Lee would have had to make that trip -- and Adnan would have had to strangle her and run to the pay phone to call Jay -- in 21 minutes, right as post-school bell traffic was in full force. And at a certain point I say, ‘Well fuck, I’m finished. Robert Chambers Jr. "The Preppy Killer," Explained, A Short History of ”Killer Clown” John Wayne Gacy, The Teresa Halbach Murder Case, Explained, The Theranos and Elizabeth Holmes Case, Explained, Pusateri’s police interviews and court testimony (along with Wilds’ own) were instrumental in convicting Syed of the killing. But on Feb. 27, 1999, investigators interviewed Pusateri again, this time with her lawyer and her mother. Sarah Koenig's Serial podcast did a deep dive into the murder of Hae Min Lee and the conviction of Adnan Syed. The group of people I hung out with were different from the group of people I was from. Never really a big group of friends. Didn’t say that much. Take my car, take my cellphone. And they were getting sentenced to three and five years. That’s the best way I can account for the inconsistencies. In the podcast Koenig pointedly challenged Jay’s account of events and his motivation for assisting Adnan. The inclusion of congressional phone data in the FBI investigation raises thorny constitutional questions. She got a new boyfriend?’ And he didn’t know how to deal with that. He says, ‘OK, follow me halfway back down the hill [towards the grave site],” so he doesn’t have to walk all the way back up the hill to get back to me in his car. Koenig recreated the timeline, just barely making the 21-minute limit. We were in the car together during last period—he was ditching the last period. He might really have just been bullshitting at the time. She was an athlete who played lacrosse and field hockey. I think there was another dude or something, or whatever. Then what happens, and what time is it roughly? They both graduated a year before Syed in 1998. The following has been edited and condensed for clarity. I wasn’t fully cooperating, so if they said, ‘Well, we have on phone records that you talked to Jenn.’ I’d say, ‘Nope, I didn’t talk to Jenn.’ Until Jenn told me that she talked with the cops and that it was ok if I did too. Getting them in trouble for anything that they knew or that I had told them — I couldn’t have that. And people were starting to find out he was a loser, ‘Oh, you and Hae aren’t together anymore. Pusateri’s police interviews and court testimony (along with Wilds’ own) were instrumental in convicting Syed of the killing. We were in the car, we were riding, smoking. Is this when you first saw Hae’s body in the trunk of her car? I’m not a lawyer and I’m not a cop. His father, Don Clinedinst, still lives in the Baltimore area to this day, according to Facebook. A big part of the ‘Serial’ podcast is to speculate on Adnan’s motive. There were some big forces going on that didn’t have anything to do with Hae. Yes we dig for about 40 minutes and we dig and dig, and he’s digging less and less. It was just at the end of my junior year, so about 16. The podcast Serial changed the way listeners examined the 1999 murder of a Baltimore High School student and created a true crime phenomenon. However he ended up doing it—whether it was premeditated, an involuntary reaction at that point in time—he just couldn’t come to grips with being a loser and failing. He calls me and says ‘I’m outside,’ so I come outside to talk to him and followed him to a different car, not his. In that situation, he was the loser. Lee’s ex-boyfriend, Adnan Syed, 17, became the primary suspect in her homicide after an anonymous caller told the police to investigate him. Create a free profile to get unlimited access to exclusive videos, sweepstakes, and more!

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